Topic: Your posting privileges have been revoked for an indefinite period of time. (Read 1961 times)

Buffalo · « **on:** February 27, 2002, 11:29:27 PM »

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Dear Buffalo~

You have continued to violate the OAUA membership agreement by copying threads and posts of other OAUA members from the OAUA private forum to a public forum off OAUA, and you have failed to remove the previous posts as requested.

Your posting privileges have been revoked for an indefinite period of time.

Bobby

gaffan · « **Reply #1 on:** February 28, 2002, 12:48:29 AM »

Still can't figure out what part of the membership agreement he's talking about.

I guess the next thing that happens is posts from OAUA start showing up in Anon Tipsters. Then Sneaks gets his privileges suspended for letting it happen. Then someone with a couple of spare hours cobbles together a few scripts to mirror everything that gets posted in the "private" forums over there on some ezboard or something.

Then maybe it occurs to someone that the whole passworded forum thing was a bad idea.

Buffalo · « **Reply #2 on:** February 28, 2002, 01:05:43 AM »

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Then maybe it occurs to someone that the whole passworded forum thing was a bad idea.

Yes it is a bad idea, no reason to have "private forums". OAUA is made up of free thinking members and I guess that just scares the hell out of them. Why must they hide behind walls?

Hey gaff don't tell anyone but I can still read over there LOL.....
just can't post how silly is that!?

gaffan · « **Reply #3 on:** February 28, 2002, 01:16:17 AM »

About a 17 on a scale of 1-10, I'd say.

Sneaky · « **Reply #4 on:** February 28, 2002, 08:23:43 AM »

Here's ToyRanch's message to me in his goofy cartoonish "comic" font...

Don must be channeling through him. I haven't been around the watercooler today to see what's been going on, so I don't have an answer for him yet...

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Dear Dave~

Buffalo has copied numerous posts and threads from the OAUA Private Member Forums to your website, in the OAUA forum. As you are aware from his posting of my email to him, he was asked to remove those posts, however he failed to comply and continued posting threads from OAUA.

This is not only a violation of the OAUA membership agreement, but it is also a violation of OAUA's copyrights. The posts were made in a private member forum, not a public forum.

Please remove the posts containing OAUA member posts from your website and disallow any further copying of posts from the member forums to your website.

The threads in question (at present) are:

http://www.auctioncrotch.com/forums/showth...p?threadid=1852

http://www.auctioncrotch.com/forums/showth...p?threadid=1850

http://www.auctioncrotch.com/forums/showth...p?threadid=1855

http://www.auctioncrotch.com/forums/showth...p?threadid=1853

http://www.auctioncrotch.com/forums/showth...p?threadid=1857

http://www.auctioncrotch.com/forums/showth...p?threadid=1862

http://www.auctioncrotch.com/forums/showth...p?threadid=1854

http://www.auctioncrotch.com/forums/showth...p?threadid=1858

http://www.auctioncrotch.com/forums/showth...p?threadid=1856

There may be more in other forums, I did not review your entire site.

In addition, your use of the OAUA logo and name in the forum on your website is not in compliance with the logo use policy, which can be found at http://www.auctionusers.org/detailed-usage.shtml

Please review the requirements and bring your logo and name use into compliance.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

Bobby

Sneaky · « **Reply #5 on:** February 28, 2002, 08:28:27 AM »

It seems that the OAUA logo on AuctionCrotch is supposed to link to my membership page, and that ALL OAUA references should be superscripted with SM. I'll work on those changes. I'll have to get with my webmaster, so it might take a while, but it'll be done as soon as possible!

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Proper Use of the Association Trademarks. The Member may use only versions of the Marks contained in graphics files provided to the Member by the Association. The member graphic (logo) must include a link to member verification on the OAUA site when it is used on auctions or web pages. The Member may not modify these graphics files or create and use new graphics files containing any of the Marks. In conjunction with the use of a proper graphics version of a Mark, the Member may include one of the following statements:

(a) \"Member of the Online Auction Users AssociationSM \";
( \"Member of the OAUASM \";
© \"Online Auction Users AssociationSM Member \"; or
(d) \"OAUASM Member\".

No other use of the Marks is permitted without the prior written consent of the Association. The Member shall use the term \"Online Auction Users Association\" or the term \"OAUA\" only as an adjective modifying the term \"Member.\" The Marks shall not be used in a plural or possessive form. Each use of the Marks shall be followed by the SM notice. The Member may not use the Marks in any way that infers or implies that the Association endorses or approves of the Member or the Member's activities or that states that the Member's identity has been verified by the Association.

Sneaky · « **Reply #6 on:** February 28, 2002, 08:43:35 AM »

OK, I added the service mark to the logo, and made it a clickable link to my membership page.

I really don't want to edit all the posts with OAUA in them and add the service mark, but I may have to, if Bobby The Brain drops the hammer on me!

Sneaky · « **Reply #7 on:** February 28, 2002, 08:54:46 AM »

Technically, the only thing I see that Buff did wrong is to NOT provide a link to the thread discussion on the OAUA. I'll try to do that now, and hopefully that will appease the great Bobby and Don.

hellcat · « **Reply #8 on:** February 28, 2002, 10:15:17 AM »

:lolup: I'm laughing at a whole lot of stuff ^^ up there...but my first chuckle was with your post about Bobby's "comic" font! Ain't that the truth??? Everytime I get an email from him, I snicker...a toy boy with a cartoon font, who expects to be taken seriously.

The OAUA doesn't "own" (via 'copyright'), the posts on their boards. They do "own" (via 'copyright') their logos, layout, and information generated officially through the OAUA. Buff has not violated the Membership Agreement, at least not in any way based on either logical or legal reasoning. Nor do you, Dave, violate the Membership Agreement by allowing those posts to stand. The OAUA's "members only" forums are not private boards...they are boards with a theoretically somewhat restricted access, but open and available to anyone who is a member (and apparently, to others with an "in" who are not members...oooopsie!).

Entire threads from the OAUA "members-only" forums have been posted on boards throughout the OAI. That the great ToyRanch doesn't either know about them, or can't theoretically control the board operator by hanging some threat to either their OAUA posting privileges or OAUA membership over the heads of those board owners/operators is, I'm sure, one of the reason his pampers are perpetually loaded. (Hell, the perfect place for those threads would be Ross' board, eh?

) Behind that nonexistent "members-only" wall, he completes the picture begun with his cartoon font...an ineffectual buffoon, the coyote of Roadrunner fame, Acme products at hand, and an overblown sense of his capabilities and cleverness--cyber-flying over the cliff, and walking like a half-sprung accordian.

If you value your OAUA membership, Dave, delete the posts/threads that contain c/p's of the posts from the OAUA members-only forums. But don't let anyone fool you...it wouldn't be because it's a violation of the Membership Agreement, it would be because you violated the newly-required Pledge of Allegiance to a fool.

Beth

Sneaky · « **Reply #9 on:** February 28, 2002, 10:34:54 AM »

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Buff has not violated the Membership Agreement, at least not in any way based on either logical or legal reasoning

I just added links to his posts because that's this board's policy.

Actually, I don't even know if Toy Ranch is a director of the OAUA anymore (didn't he quit, in a manner of saying?). Shouldn't his emails be generated from an auctionusers.org email account? Maybe the email system doesn't work again.

I refuse to communicate with this OAUA director imposter!

hellcat · « **Reply #10 on:** February 28, 2002, 11:21:55 AM »

Dave, the only thing Bobby "quit" was the temporary officer position of COO, and I think that was while he was (ineffectually, but that's another issue) "screwing" Charlotte. He never quit being a director.

I think the next step is Potentate.

Beth

Sneaky · « **Reply #11 on:** February 28, 2002, 11:29:34 AM »

Oh, OK, that makes, sense.

The only other legal violation I can think of is using the OAUA "shield?" graphic in the forum header. I'll get that fixed as soon as I get with the webmaster.

Then I should be clean as the freshly driven snow.

I could go on a Mivona tangent, and find all of the other OAUA graphic logo violations, and complain "Wahhh. but what about them?", but I'm not Mivona.

I'm still waiting on an official email from any BOD member email, I don't trust that toyranch impersonator.

Buffalo · « **Reply #12 on:** February 28, 2002, 12:52:57 PM »

So what we have here is a OAUA member in good standing that's (me) being censored from the BOD at the OAUA
for no reason that can be found in the membership agreement?
And this toyranch impersonator that keeps emailing me shows no title in his emails of being with the OAUA just "Bobby" ?

hellcat · « **Reply #13 on:** February 28, 2002, 01:47:54 PM »

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So what we have here is a OAUA member in good standing that's (me) being censored from the BOD at the OAUA
for no reason that can be found in the membership agreement?

Yes, and no, Buff. As I've stated before, by no stretch of the imagination does the OAUA hold a copyright on the posts of members to their forums, any more than you held a copyright on any of my posts at AD (simply because my words were posted on a site which you owned/controlled). The "violation of the Membership Agreement due to OAUA copyright infringement" is bogus. However, the suspension of your posting privileges is covered under the OAUA "Community Guidelines," including: "The OAUA will monitor and moderate the board at it's discretion. In their discretion moderators and administrators may delete posts, move posts or threads to proper areas, and/or suspend a user's posting privileges if it is deemed that the user has breeched the OAUA community guidelines or is disruptive to the OAUA or it's forums." (bolding mine)

Now, I have to honestly say that I can see where your c/p of those posts from the members-only forums/threads could be considered "disruptive." It would not, of course, be the first time anyone has suggested that you are, ummm, 'disruptive' at times, I think.

The point is, actually, that the Community Guidelines are only that...a guideline...and as such much broader in scope, with (of necessity) fewer situational specifics, but allowing for greater discretion of action by a moderator/administrator, including the suspension of posting privileges. The Membership Agreement, on the other hand, is a very specific document (in need of revision). There are some 'weasel words' in there, but it's easy to know what is a violation of it, at least it is for most folks.

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And this toyranch impersonator that keeps emailing me shows no title in his emails of being with the OAUA just \"Bobby\" ?

Certainly everyone in the OAI around the WORLD knows who "Bobby" is? It's like "Cher" or "Madonna"... nothing more needs to be said. Bow, you philistine! :hair:

Beth

Storm Front · « **Reply #14 on:** February 28, 2002, 01:50:29 PM »

Forgive me for being thick-headed this morning, but what the hell is OAUASM?

hellcat · « **Reply #15 on:** February 28, 2002, 02:05:59 PM »

Stormy, I believe that it is the designation of the ultra super-secret "Sadism and Masochism" division of the Online Auction Users Association. :naughty:

Beth

Storm Front · « **Reply #16 on:** February 28, 2002, 02:08:37 PM »

When they have meetings, they all have multiple OAUAgasms?

Sneaky · « **Reply #17 on:** February 28, 2002, 02:45:03 PM »

wolfpack asked what policy Buff broke. I think the thread should be in a public area, but I doubt Bobby or Don will move it.

Buffalo · « **Reply #18 on:** February 28, 2002, 02:58:53 PM »

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I think the thread should be in a public area, but I doubt Bobby or Don will move it

Well the whole damn place should be open to public reading. How are they ever going to get new members if they hide behind closed doors. I guess they will never learn, I was over at SYI talking about this mess and Karen says to me

"Buffalo, would you email me on that, I'm sorry that happened, but would rather discuss it in private."

And i said...............
http://www.sellyouritem.com/Lounge.html?Ro...D=1&Button=View

shadowcat · « **Reply #19 on:** February 28, 2002, 07:13:09 PM »

When they have meetings, they all have multiple OAUAgasms?

Well, I suspect someone is creaming his jockeys over all this...

Charlotte Fox · « **Reply #20 on:** February 28, 2002, 11:39:23 PM »

I suspect several are though the image it brings to mind is some what sickening Shadow. (Did ya wanna compare notes on who?)

Storm Front · « **Reply #21 on:** February 28, 2002, 11:42:48 PM »

Don't. Don't.

I just ate.

shadowcat · « **Reply #22 on:** March 01, 2002, 10:57:36 AM »

CF: Out of consideration for Stormy's sensitive tummy, I'll pass.

coyote · « **Reply #23 on:** March 01, 2002, 11:30:56 AM »

I think it ought to be oaua.orgasms...

coyote · « **Reply #24 on:** March 01, 2002, 11:33:06 AM »

P.S. oh ick - I just thought of who...

Actually - yes - multiple...

Gads! I'm leaving...

TRWW · « **Reply #25 on:** March 01, 2002, 12:22:16 PM »

'Manny' got banned from there but I never did.

SneakyDave

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